On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rainer von Ammon wrote:First a summary of the suggested next steps:
1) Telco Wednesday, 18 Jan
with Wolfgang Maass
in order to start a merger
between the Blue Brain/Human Brain Project (HBP) / BrainScaleS and our BioMedCEP communities (VPH-FET, U-CEP). If somebody likes to join, Wolfgang offered the afternoon, 4 pm CET
(skype, so I would need your skype address)
2) Telco 19 Jan
with John-Dylan Haynes/MPI Neuro and Cognition Science/Leipzig
and the other addressed MPIs Psychiatrie and BioPhysics
3) Submission to NBIS pre-check
after 19 Jan if consortium including MPIs is nearly stable
4) Submission to Challenge 2
: Cognitive Systems and Robotics, Objective 2.1: Cognitive Systems and Robotics, b) Cognition and control in complex systems
"Robotics" does not exist in Call9 anymore and we might fit very well with "Cognitive Systems":
"Enabling technologies based on the
acquisition and application of cognitive capabilities (e.g., establishing patterns in sensor data,
classification, conceptualisation, reasoning, planning) for enhancing the performance and
manageability of complex multi-component and multi-degree-of-freedom artificial systems,
also building on synergies between cognitive systems and systems control engineering. This
outcome complements Objective 3.3 / target outcome (d).
Realistic, highly demanding, scalable real-world scenarios will motivate and guide research
related to targets a) & b), and serve to validate its results. Specific Targeted Research Projects
(STREP) are particularly suited to high-risk endeavours, breaking new grounds, with high
potential rewards. They are also appropriate for component-level research for particular
domains. Integrated Projects (IP) are preferred for system-oriented efforts; they are expected
to encompass all stages of the research and development lifecycle and, where appropriate,
cutting across research topics."
If you like to read some more background, this is what I discussed with Bernard de Bono yesterday:1) NBIS shaphing of BioMedCEP
(...) NBIS actually seems to be an initiative of the Blue Brain/Human Brain Project (FET Flagship 2020 and Beyond proposal of Henry Markram led group) / BrainScaleS (U Heidelberg Karl-Heinz Meier+ EPFL et al.). Wolfgang Maass works with them since around 10 years and he is involved in the IP consortium which is already prepared very specifically along with the NBIS call (...) (see our discussion viewtopic.php?f=13&t=316&start=30#p1292
, our community would have to work with the EC from the beginning when the Calls and their contents are defined, we cannot simply submit an IP proposal normally).2) BioMedCEP NBIS pre-check
In order to get awareness of the EC and the evaluator scene, we should submit the one-pager with a stable list of consortium members.
The result would be interesting and helpful for shaping our future work nonetheless and how to fit in Horizon 2020 (FP8) and also in a FET Flagship. We believe that one of the flagships which will be started in 2013 for 10 years/1 billion € might be a merger of HBP and Quantum Computing. We already tried to shape BioMedCEP accordingly to merge U-CEP and VPH-FET with them. In so far, the pre-check would make sense (...)3) What to do if the pre-check is positive?
There are also serious critics (...) (e.g. CalTech Christoph Koch at Humanity+ conference 2011) and e.g. an open letter from Zurich regarding Blue Brain/HBP which eats all the bugdets of the EC (...) Insofar our proposal is working on concrete (clinical) use cases and also on concrete product ideas (bidirectional Exocortex/Human Enhancement Technologies in combination with BCI's, Wearable Technologies, Body Area Networks, Event Adapters for living cells, Cognitive Chip technology, etc.).
So, it might be that the evaluators judge positively (...) We believe that the FET team would tell us our real chance with the pre-check.
(...) agreed to wait for the answers of the Max Planck Institutes until end of next week and, if so, we would have a strong consortium. And we would have tried to merge with the HBP/BrainScaleS community what is wanted by the FET team (...) in connection with the flagship proposals (...)4) Check the submission to 6.2 Challenge 2, objective 2.1 b
We would avoid competition with HBP/BrainScaleS (...) Although the scene seems to be very much broader, we should first check our chance with the head of unit/PO (...)5) Continue with the BioMedCEP focus anyway
We agreed to continue and not to stop now (...). Bernhard means that what we are doing already, is worth our time and effort and we have already learnt a lot by merging our ideas (...)